remember: tvseriesfans forum

TVSF. For some, this acronym strikes fond memories of a thriving TVB community. For others, these four letters are meaningless. TVSF is the acronym for TVSeriesFans - one of the biggest and most successful of all TVB online forums because it was more than just a forum.
Forums are nothing new and before TVSF came onto the scene, there were other forums (which will be discussed in another article). What set TVSF apart when it emerged was the fact that its main service was for Vietnamese TVB fans. For the first time, there was a place made especially for Viet fans. Because series have to be dubbed for Viets, they would get lost and feel out of place in other forums since the series of discussion hadn't been released yet for them. With TVSF, Viets could discuss current Viet released series with others and not feel behind. It was also a place where Viets could get news on series and find out what the newest released series in Viet were.
TVSF was launched by DCN - who remains the true and only administrator in the hearts of the forum's veterans. While I'm not sure of the exact date the forum was launched, I believe it was in late 2001. Like all new websites, TVSF started out very small. Nevertheless, it was still able to attract its own group of followers at the beginning (mostly Viets). In early 2002, TVSF went on hiatus for around three months. With its comeback, TVSF grew to new heights, attracting more visitors and members each month.
The golden years
From mid-2002 to mid-2004, TVSF was thriving. It attracted thousands of visitors and members and was a bustling community. Almost every thread was active, members had fun, and TVSF just had a lot of great things to offer with many options and features that other forums didn't have. While TVSF was still mainly targeted towards Viets, it became more universal and could service the entire TVB community.
2003 was TVSF's prime. It was a year of change with many exciting new things. With detailed series information, Viet releases updated weekly on the main page, and with series downloads on BT, TVSF became huge. TVSF was arguably the first forum to introduce BT downloading of TVB series to a mass English-speaking audience. Viets now visited it more than ever to get the latest updates on series and TVSF attracted more non-Viet members as well with the series information and downloads it had to offer. It was the place to be for TVB 411 and discussions.
Shut downs and scares
DCN lost interest in running the forum during winter 2003. He announced plans to close the forum in early 2004. It was because of this that AsianFanatics was born. Everyone from TVSF rushed over to AF because AF was going to serve as the "new" TVSF. Luckily, DCN decided not to shut down the forum and handed the job of administering the forum over to someone else. Thus, TVSF's life was carried through to 2004 and members happily returned to TVSF. Even though DCN "retired" from the forum, he still stuck around.
The happiness didn't last long. In summer 2004, DCN announced that TVB had sent him a letter and was forcing him to shut down the site. Apparently, TVB was not happy with the forum posting pictures and information from and about their series and they were angered with the downloading section (which had grown tremendously since it was introduced to TVSF in summer '03). TVB threatened to take legal actions if the forum continued to run. Sadly, TVSF had to shut down. The final days of TVSF were spent with members in shock, sadness, and bitterness at TVB. There was a whole "hate" thread for TVB in which members sent e-mails to them to vent their frustration (of course, the e-mails would never be read, but it was still a way for everyone to vent).
It was with this that the TVSF community had to bid farewell to their beloved forum - which had brought everyone together. It was more than just a place to discuss TVB. It had become a home to many where friendships were spun. Everyone visited it every day and some even became addicted to it. TVSF had started small in 2001, but by its shutdown in summer 2004 - it was one of the biggest TVB-related sites around.
Poor substitutes and a final goodbye
It was natural that replacement forums popped up after TVSF's death. Each one tried to model after TVSF, but being on free servers and not having as much options as TVSF turned people off. Thus, some ventured into AF. In the fall of 2004, however, a group of TVSF members got together to bring back the forum. TVSeries Sensation was the "spin off" to TVSF and premiered in October 2004. It had a rough start and while it was on a paid server, people felt that it didn't give the TVSF "feel."
A member was able to contact DCN and he gave TVSS the scripts of TVSF. Thus, TVSF was restored for one final time. With the look, members, and threads back - TVSF (now in the name of TVSS) was back in business. Sadly, poor management, chaos, and in-fights among the "tops" made the "new" TVSF not so enjoyable. Even though the exterior was TVSF - the interior was not. TVSF was warm and fun, but TVSS was messy and strict. However, it was still a place to go to, so people still went there.
Nearing the summer of 2005, TVSS kept going off-line randomly. People thought it was server glitches at first, but when the administrators (who foot the bill) couldn't be reached, people started to suspect that the forum might shut down again. Indeed - that was the case. Without any warning, the administrators had abandoned the forum. Without anyone paying the bills, the server was terminated and TVSF was gone. While people were upset by the abrupt departure, it wasn't as great as the outpour that happened the previous summer when the true TVSF shut down.
Encoded Thoughts
Recently, a group of old TVSF members have built a new forum called TvSeriesForum. While they've done a great job and the forum looks nice and partially reminds of TVSF, sadly, the special, warm feeling is not there. To me and others, the true TVSF faded away two summers ago. What's left are just memories of golden days of happiness. Unless DCN returns (which is unlikely), TVSF will be no more. You just had to be around and experience personally what TVSF was to understand why so many people love the forum.
TVSF will be remembered for the good times and all that it gave to the TVB community.
Bonus: TVB Musings' Episodic Memory
My first encounter with TVSF was in early 2002. I believe I was searching for Virtues of Harmony. In any case, what attracted me to the forum was that it had a lot of information and opinions and the people were friendly. It shut down shortly after I arrived, however. I was thrilled when it came back and even more ecstatic when I saw the forum continue to grow and become more popular. I loved being a Super Moderator there and DCN was a genius for creating so many wonderful codes and scripts for the forum - the Viet Released updates, first posts, easy deletes, and so on. The forum just had everything and I went on whenever I could.
Many people remember me as an S-Mod over at TVSF, but the story of how I became one is funny. I actually had no intention of being one and didn't even apply for the position! In fact, I was an S-Mod for several weeks before I even used any of "power" that I was entitled to. What happened was that I was friends with Hazel (I call her "Hazeli"), who was friends with DCN, so she asked me if I wanted to be an S-Mod. I didn't really understand what that was, but I said, "Sure, why not?" So, DCN promoted me to S-Mod without ever contacting me or anything. I guess he saw that was a good active member, so he knew I wouldn't abuse my power. But yes, it's true - I climbed my way to power through corruption. Haha. I did no work to get to my position, but I think many will agree that I did a great job as an S-Mod. As cocky as this may sound, I do believe that without me, TVSF just isn't TVSF.
The big thing that I contributed to TVSF was the format of the first posts in the series forums. After DCN installed the script so that the first posts of all threads would appear in subsequent pages, I re-did all of the series threads' first posts. My format had the series's poster, titles, synopsis, useful links, frequently asked questions, and ratings all in the first post. Therefore, all crucial information were included right there at the top of every page in threads for people to read. It made the series threads so organized, easy to read, and attractive. It's partially because of this that many people were attracted to TVSF for series information since everything was so neat and accessible in the first post. I was pleased when new threads followed my format and I was very happy to see that TvSeriesForum kept my format when they made their forum.
What I love most about TVSF is that it's like a home. It's warm, friendly, and fun. The majority of the TVSF community was like a big family. Everyone knew a lot of people and many friendships were made. I felt comfortable there and could say whatever I wanted. I felt free to talk about series and other things. I was never bored online when TVSF was up. It was always so active and there was always something to post or reply to. The replacement forums just didn't do it for me.
Of course, what attracted me most to TVSF was that it had the most Virtues of Harmony fans and/or watchers out of all TVB's online forums. In fact, I believe that TVSF rose with VOH. TVSF's prime (2002-2004) was also Virtues's best years. Virtues was arguably one of the hottest series at TVSF - having the most viewed and replied series thread(s). I remember the endless hours of Virtues discussions, games, and of course - spamming... it was all so great. When "TVSF" (well, TVSS) died again in the summer of 2005, Virtues had also completed its run for Viet viewers. It's almost as if TVSF and VOH had some weird fate! It's largely due to Virtues that TVSF was so enjoyable for me. I just loved our VOH community @ TVSF and I enjoyed posting my thoughts on the tapes every week, providing all of the information, reading others' thoughts, and laughing and joking in the threads.
I was crushed both times when TVSF announced that it was going to close. I didn't know what I'd do online without it! It was a place where I belonged... a place to go, everyday, any time. I was really angry at TVB for making the forum close because we did nothing wrong but promote their series. Okay, the downloading I could understand, but pictures and information?! How were we supposed to discuss their series without it? That was just ridiculous. While I didn't write "hate e-mails" to TVB, I still stayed up late into the night to post and vent with other TVSF members as we waited until the forum was gone...
After TVSF's shutdown in summer '04, I started TVSF Corner at my Virtues site to assist Viets in the weekly series releases. My small corner was quite successful and I really have to thank the people who contributed the non-TVB releases for me. Shortly after the opening of my TVSF "page," Jess (my "grandma") and I decided to open our own forum - called HKSF Café. Our forum wasn't very popular and had little members, but it was a nice place for us to go and post our opinions. Thank you to those of you who joined and supported us! Naturally, my TVSF Corner and our small forum closed when TVSS opened.
I was skeptical about TVSS all along because I had had a bit of a "misunderstanding" with the future administrator back when she was a member at TVSF. However, I won't dwell into what happened because it doesn't really matter. When TVSS was unveiled, I was horrified with how unattractive it looked and how little options it had, but, because of Virtues, I had to make it a home to continue to discuss and promote it. I was overly thrilled when I was told that DCN had given them the scripts of TVSF and that the forum was going to look and have all of TVSF's members, threads, and so on, back.
It was such a nice feeling to see "TVSF" back. It was like seeing an old friend, or rather, an old home. TVSS thus became a better place to visit, but it paled compared to the true TVSF. The management sucked and the atmosphere changed. There were more "troublemakers," "idiots," and "spammers." I realized that I began to visit TVSS more so for VOH and for the sake of remembering TVSF than for the actual forum itself. With TVSF, I was always excited to visit to see what was new, but with TVSS, I didn't care too much about it besides for the VOH thread. I was a little "upset" that the administrators just abandoned TVSS without any word, but I wasn't sad.
Through TVSS's many shortcomings, I was able to close the TVSF chapter in my life. I didn't miss it so badly anymore and while it would be nice to still have TVSF to visit, I think it's better that it ended. I don't need to be so addicted to such an online community because I'm not a high school student anymore. Nevertheless, when it's boring online with nothing to do and I have nowhere to go, I miss TVSF.
Thank you TVSF for giving me a home for so many great years!
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35 Comments:
I love writing the Remember features because it's so good to look back. However, since they are quite poignant and lengthy, they take time to write. :P Hope you guys like this latest installment.
And fellow TVSF people, hope to hear your thoughts on our lovely home. :)
6.7.06
I absolutely love the article. It is very touching. So much sorrow with a glimpse of everyone's love for TVSF. Reminds me of how much I hated TVB in that time and how I was so annoyed with the spamming and how the VOH thread was always full of hustle and bustle that I had a hard time checking the new posts and how I had met everyone including the almighty Metal here. I sure wish DCN would come back. I've always held that hope in me but I know it won't be. TVSF had been my homepage for so long. Every time I get on the net, it would be there. TVSS was OK. AF is nothing. Asian Series Sensation is another nothing. The New TVSF is not worth my time. I hate being so lost on the net because the members are scattered everywhere. Anyway, thanks for writing such a long article on TVSF. I'm sure it will always live in our hearts no matter what. But next time, don't make it so frollicking sad. Hehe. Was that cheezy enough?
6.7.06
Ahh...I remember TVSF. Agree...back in the days. One of the first few TVB websites/forums I went to couple of years back. But like you said, it focused majority for Viets TVB fans, so I got turned off by it. Not very affected during the hiatus times or when it shut down, but still sad to see it went under. That's where I first saw you, Metal! lol... Nonetheless, great feature once again. Keep it up. =)
6.7.06
First, I would like to thank Metali for mentioning me in this touching article. I don’t want to sound cocky or anything, but there are some people who I had helped become S-MOD/MOD at the old forum that didn’t even show any appreciation toward my work nor effort on getting them to where they are. But, whatever! I’m not going to hold any grudges against them.
Second, what a wonderful article you had wrote, Metali! It brings back so many memories and nostalgic moments for me since I had been with the forum for quite a long time. I can’t believe how we didn’t even know each other when we were such old members. I mean we joined the forum when it just got started! But, we didn’t even talked or anything till that one fine day in the VOH’s thread. HAHAHA!! Such fond memories!! DCN was such a wonderful guy!! Gosh, I adored him so much! Even though he always lie and trick me. I totally agree with all the things you had said in this article! And Metali, DCN didn’t promote you just because we were friends and I asked him to. He knew you were good! Not only good, but a great member and addition onto the staff. Look at me! I barely contribute anything!! While you contribute and help the forum ten times more then I did!! HAHAHA!! I should be fired!!
Lastly, I hope all the old TVSFers get a chance to read this awesome article!! And share their thoughts and feelings. I LOVE TVSF!!! LOL!! And DCN will forever be my #1 su huynh!!
6.7.06
Very sweet article.
6.7.06
Nice article. I really liked the old TVSF, my fondest memories of TVSF were during 2002-3. I was in Japan when it came back, and I stayed on the computer so long I had to be kicked off because my host sister neeeded to sleep.
I always saw you around, but while you hung around the series forums, I frequented the social forums. Maybe because you were mainly in the series forums, but I sensed a change in the atmosphere in the social forums earlier than DCN's resignition. I think of it was a generation change, new members come and make a place for themselves, and I was unfamiliar with the impression they left. I got banned for a prank, so I didn't get to see DCN's reign through, but it was memorable.
With the new TVSF, yeah nothing can replace that old atmosphere if TVSF, so we're not trying for that. But there needs to be a central forum about Viet releases, while we're not trying to replace the old TVSF, because it's a shame we can't, we hope to build something new. Maybe one day, some years later, the new TVSF would have a feel of it's own. But I doubt that, admittedly, I harbour no fond bond with the new TVSF, but maybe one day I can change that.
That's my thoughts on TVSF, thanks for yours.
7.7.06
oh thats a long aarticle! well my first viet forum website was tv series sensation i never really knew about tvsf. so i never really felt wat u felf. but yea i really like tvss too cuz some ppl there were really nice too n it have voh n other series. metal u speak viet too? tvss was quite useful too i dont know about tvsf if i had it might be bettter thx 4 sharin
7.7.06
Very touching indeed. The original tvsf wasn't just a forum for me, it was a place I considered an "internet" home. I met alot of interesting members and it was a fun experience. TVSF is without a doubt the best forum there is out there... Although we can never return to the original tvsf days however we can try our best to make new memories at tvseriesforums.
7.7.06
bravo bravo well writing, well said
7.7.06
very good article. it brought back good memories...*sighh*
7.7.06
That was a good read indeed, I see a promising writer in you. I miss the old TVSF too. Thanks to that forum, I was able to meet 2 people who both have profound effects in my life. For that, I am eternally grateful.
7.7.06
"sadly, the special, warm feeling is not there"
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly...more importantly, I wonder if that feeling will ever return. I think that feeling is long gone But at least I got some lasting friendships out of it while it lasted.
A very good, touching article indeed. I only skimmed but you provided a very good synopsis :)
7.7.06
MetalAznWarrior- mmm wow. you are such an awesome writer. but mmm. yes. it was sad when TVSF had to close down. i think i've joined the forum in early 2002 also. but anyway. i only read until the last three paragraphs or so, then i started scanning through them. ahha. thank you for sharing your thoughts and memories with us.
7.7.06
yea, metal, one of the top poster of the old forum. It's hard to keep thing legal and fun at the same time when companies are always at the fans' throats. I personally dislike tvb since 2003, so couldn't care less about them. But really, DCN did gave us alot of freedom. That was what I love most about the old forum.
7.7.06
aww such a touching article :)
makes me remember the good old days :)
7.7.06
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As cocky as this may sound, I do believe that without me, TVSF just isn't TVSF.
hahaha, just for the quote, I need to spank you, bro! jk jk...I have to agree with that since you gave the VOH community so much and contributed so much to TVSF...
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I don't need to be so addicted to such an online community because I'm not a high school student anymore. Nevertheless, when it's boring online with nothing to do and I have nowhere to go, I miss TVSF.
Awww, poor you...I guess we really can't go back to where it was before..what we can, however, now is to look up to the future. I think every party has to end somehow. I was really sad when TVSF was gone and then I didn't feel like TVSS was the same, so I just left. I didn't know that it just disappeared without a warning.
You are such a great writer..you recap everything in a very nicely and organized form!!! I wish I could write like that...pouring out my own memories. I hope that you don't feel like you still don't have a home, bro, because feeling homeless is the worse feeling.
7.7.06
TVSF is definitely a place I call home on the internet. When I first came to TVSF....the first person I met was Hazel. Even though we didn't know each other a lot...we slowly became friends. Now she's one of my good friends that I'll cherish forever. I also met a lot of other wonderful people there such as my boo Laydee, my doodle KD, the funniest pervert Nick, and the big dork name Kimbo....lolz. There's many more people, but it will take me forever to list them. TVSF was definitely an entertaining place to be....we all had lots of fun and laughters there....not to mention a lot of fights. But we all made up and everything was fine. All the members there were very helpful....I think it was actually the best forum online for Viets. It had a lot of infos that you can't find anywhere else.....due to our huge member contribution. Our leader DCN was very nice and lenient on us......he gave us the freedom to do what we feel like. So that's why many people come there, because it feels like our own home! I will forever miss the old TVSF and our great leader DCN.
7.7.06
it's funny how i joined TVSF in the summer of 2003 because of VOH too. i was a newbie back then so i didn't know anything/anyone. but i did indeed pick up some good friends and met some great people along the way. this is the first and only forum that i'm actually active in since i don't do forums much.
7.7.06
mm this was a touching article.. all though my head hurts like heck after reading it teehee but.. this article when people read it, it sorta reminds them how did everything started. How were their friends made, and why are they even here at TVSS.
It brings back the one place where it all began, and it puts the longing memories they wish to recollect. Everything began back at TVSF, and I'm sad it went down as much as everyone else is. But what is gone is gone. We just have to rebuild ourselves around TVSS and be happy that we still have another "home" to go to with our longing friends and forum. <3
Much love to TVSF. <3333333333
7.7.06
Wow..I really enjoyed reading this..you're a really good writer metal.
7.7.06
Sure brings back the old days. I missed those times and the people especially.
7.7.06
Originally didn't want to post this since it would ruin your poignant entry, but alas...
My only recollection of TVSF was after two days of joining, a random guy emailed me and asked how to copy video tapes. When I mentioned he would need two VCRs, he was baffled. -lol-
7.7.06
aww,
anh hai so sweet!!
ur such an emotional one, :D
Mr. Sensitive..
its a real nice and of course long way to say thanks, even though i wasnt a member long b4 the forum shut down it was an amazing forum..
very fun and welcoming..
i remember making friends instantly, most of the ppl were sweet and kind..
always welling to share..
thats how i met u anh thanh..
and of course there were times where u made me feel like my hairs are turning grey and falling off..
but overall i still love u..
*huges*
i really miss those "golden" times..
i mean, i dont have much time to go online like i was 3 years ago, but there are times where i get really bore and feel like catching up on my asains friends and series, but sadly there just isnt a TVSF to go to and relax..
its a terrible lost, but i guess we all just have other things we have to worry about..
by and by, i miss the wonderful site and surely hope that mayb one day it'll return to us, if not, than we always have our memories to keep..
8.7.06
Wow that was a long article but I sure read it all. Lol. It was nice of u to write an article about TVSF bro. Really bring back a lot of memories. Sigh. I really miss the old days. I think I was one that was addicted to it. Lol.
8.7.06
that is a very long and thoughtful article that you wrote..from it...i can really feel how much tvsf was so important to us...sigh..miss it dearly..
9.7.06
Wow.. that was a great read. Although i was never a active member but i visited TVSF daily and really miss it.. i dun know if there will ever be another place like TVSF.. good times while it last.
9.7.06
yes - i remember. i loved the forum. all those friendship, arguements about Vicki Zhao's Japanese dress, dontbuyafpeople getting banned, etc.
even though i'm not viet, i still enjoyed everything tvsf offered.
thanks for the good read
10.7.06
Long article, but a good read. It brings back a lot of memories...
10.7.06
tvsf was great while it lasted =).
10.7.06
oh my..that was so touching a sweet metal.....i can see all the thoughts you put into it..
10.7.06
Wow thanks for the warm reception and comments everyone. :)
10.7.06
Great articleeee!!! Very well-written! Yea I remember TVSF..it was like the only site that got me logging in at all time while I was on my computer. The only site I stayed with. Now I'm not too aware of TVB news these days as there is no where exciting to go too. But I guess that is a good thing like you said since I'm going to University next year so there won't be time for that anyways. School also got me away from your fanfic and with a bad memory like me I forgot about it! Oopz sorrieee...I don't have it as a favourite on this computer :( ... Until I got really bored today and went searching for TVB things. So I guess I got a lot of catching up to do! I have something useful to do instead of walking around the house and complaining that I'm bored. Well yea I'm going to check that new forum out and hopefully that will be my summer vacation spot haha.
11.7.06
There's so many anonymous posting that I have no idea who is who. :P However, I'm glad you liked the article! I think TVSS will be the only site that I will ever visit religiously (beside my own of course!). Hehe. Hope you will get a chance to read the fanfic again... luckily for you, the fanfic (new chapters) has moved to the blog as well. ;)
11.7.06
Aw, Metal! What a touchin' post! I have to agree with you! TVSF "was" my home! There were times when I didn't have anythin' to do, and was absolutely sick of boredom. TVSF came to my rescue. I've been an active member ever since; however, the whole shut-down thing was heart-breakin'! TVSF gave me a feelin' as if I'm home. It's one of the most popular online community website. TVSS was close to TVSF. It's simply a another website in disguise. It's okay noww. After years, I've realized TVSF will never come back. To me, I will definitely cherish the memories I've shared with the members there. Most importantly, we've became closer as online friends. =)
3.9.06
Thank you so much for your article. I never really knew what happened to TVSF -it was always a mystery to me why it all ended- until I chanced upon your article while searching for TVSF. Every now and then, i try to search about it, looking for some remnants of the past because I still miss it. My TVSF experience was unforgettable. I learned so much, widened my horizons, met incredible, zealous, warm people, no, friends, fellow aficionados who share the same love of anything and everything about asian entertainment, etc. In its prime TVSF was the apotheosis of esprit de corps. I'm quite nostalgic here because it was my very first forum, it's where it all began for me.And i also met one of my best friends in the world. I really had a lot of fun. Looking back, I remember how heart-wrenching and devastating it was learning about the finality of its shutting down. But it's great to know that even up to now, a lot of people have not forgotten about it - and continue to cherish it. Proof that its existence is never in vain, never was and never will be.
28.5.07
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